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Sonic Posted - 03 Feb 2020 : 13:20:21
https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/03/no-free-to-air-tv-for-supercars-opening-enduro/

no coverage of the 500 this year...

brought to you by the series that doesn't give a damn and wonders why the fans are giving them the bird...
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journeyman racer Posted - 20 Feb 2020 : 23:42:36
Considering the parlous state of the series, I reckon they could do a good deal with Blendline TV next year.
oldtimer Posted - 20 Feb 2020 : 20:05:48
This weekend there are a lot of hours FTA over 3 days.

Hopefully, they leave in the racing and cut out talking heads and alleged celebrity cross promotional interviews, for which i don't care a pinch or even a peck.

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FRIDAY 21 FEBRUARY

LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
11:00 am to 8:00 pm
Action from Friday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.

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LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
2:30 pm to 7:00 pm
Action from Friday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.

SATURDAY 22 FEBRUARY

LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
10:30 am to 7:30 pm
Action from Saturday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.

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LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
12:30 pm to 7:00 pm
Action from Saturday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.

SUNDAY 23 FEBRUARY

LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
10:00 am to 6:00 pm
Action from Sunday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.

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LIVE: Superloop Adelaide 500
11:30 am to 6:00 pm
Action from Sunday of the Superloop Adelaide 500.


LIVE: Supercars Trackside
6:00 pm to 7:00 pm
Jess Yates, with Supercars legends Mark Skaife and Craig Lowndes, preview all the weekend's action.

Plus Chris Stubbs and Riana Crehan have all the breaking news from pit-lane.
murph_fan51 Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 18:59:12
I know a lot of fans walked away in NZ when Bathurst was no longer on FTA in NZ.

At least you can still watch Bathurst FTA.

The series will be dead in a few years just like Holden is anyway. Then we can get a proper ATCC back again, and fully on FTA. Looking forward to it.
djr18fan Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 18:53:21
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

quote:
Originally posted by tommo11

Kayo makes the series more accessible, both with price and with where you can watch it.

Yeah it is good, though $300 per season is kinda expensive - assuming you're not going to muck around with a spreadsheet to figure out when to cancel/resume your subscription.

Most of the best races like Bathurst are available for free, so the 300 bucks only gives you the less interesting races. That's what makes it a tough sell.

For serious fans of the sport, no worries. Heck of a lot cheaper than attending even one race in the flesh. But what about new fans of the sport who aren't sure if they like it yet? The current TV deal is no good for them, and they're the future of the sport.



Better then, that new fans are exposed only to the better races on FTV. That would be more likely to draw them in than watching a less interesting race and getting put off watching any more.
tommo11 Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 18:50:38
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

quote:
Originally posted by tommo11

Kayo makes the series more accessible, both with price and with where you can watch it.

Yeah it is good, though $300 per season is kinda expensive - assuming you're not going to muck around with a spreadsheet to figure out when to cancel/resume your subscription.

Most of the best races like Bathurst are available for free, so the 300 bucks only gives you the less interesting races. That's what makes it a tough sell.

For serious fans of the sport, no worries. Heck of a lot cheaper than attending even one race in the flesh. But what about new fans of the sport who aren't sure if they like it yet? The current TV deal is no good for them, and they're the future of the sport.

I think it is better if your have multiple interests.

I have it mainly for the AFL coverage, but cricket, F1, supercars and watching Nick Kyrgios having a meltdown or win tournaments out of the blue are nice bonuses.
abhibeckert Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 17:57:04
quote:
Originally posted by tommo11

Kayo makes the series more accessible, both with price and with where you can watch it.

Yeah it is good, though $300 per season is kinda expensive - assuming you're not going to muck around with a spreadsheet to figure out when to cancel/resume your subscription.

Most of the best races like Bathurst are available for free, so the 300 bucks only gives you the less interesting races. That's what makes it a tough sell.

For serious fans of the sport, no worries. Heck of a lot cheaper than attending even one race in the flesh. But what about new fans of the sport who aren't sure if they like it yet? The current TV deal is no good for them, and they're the future of the sport.
tommo11 Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 17:41:54
Kayo makes the series more accessible, both with price and with where you can watch it. I watched more last year than I had the previous 5 years because it was more accessible thanks to Kayo and my Ipad.

The big thing I notice now is how poor the marketing for the series is. The drivers are bland, the racing is boring and the promotion is poor. When I started watching I had Skaife, Murphy, Ingall, Ambrose, Lowndes among others who all had personality and distinctive driving styles. Even when HRT were a juggernaut, it was still interesting, chaotic and exciting.

They are particularly behind the ball with their digital marketing. The series only started using their Youtube channel properly late last year while the normally tight F1 have been using it for extended highlights for years. These mediums are crucial for attracting younger viewers.
fordman Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 06:53:01
I Think SC will have to have a HELL of a salespitch to get a good deal given the Holden departure. What will be racing in 2022+ and will it be any good??
Trev Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 06:28:29
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Wtf is wrong with you?

They're bringing up tv deals of other competitions as a means to argue the merit of the next supercars deal?

If you don't understand that, that's your problem to deal with.

thank you, I thought the conversation was on track, we are talking TV deals but poor old mate missed that point obviously
SetonFan Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 22:20:39
Supercars on Foxtel rates extremely well on average compared to the sports it is likely to be fighting for funds with - such as A-League and Super Rugby - and grew YOY in 2019. However, the series is possibly at a disadvantage only being on for 14/15 weekends a year and mostly in the daytime compared to other sports that can provide content over more weekends and more timeslots.
journeyman racer Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 20:34:50
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by Trev

it is about TV rights in case you missed it - please keep up



Yes! About TV and Supercars!

Trev, try to keep up.

Just to refresh your memory.

Wtf is wrong with you?

They're bringing up tv deals of other competitions as a means to argue the merit of the next supercars deal?

If you don't understand that, that's your problem to deal with.
oldtimer Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 16:55:36
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

it is about TV rights in case you missed it - please keep up



Yes! About TV and Supercars!

Trev, try to keep up.

Just to refresh your memory.

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/03/no-free-to-air-tv-for-supercars-opening-enduro/

no coverage of the 500 this year...

brought to you by the series that doesn't give a damn and wonders why the fans are giving them the bird...




There are plenty of other forum categories to discuss other sports.

Here is a comment from another thread that is still very relevant to this thread, except for the motoring word.

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

I will repeat for those who do not understand...

Keep this thread only for comments/discussion as it relates to Supercars.
If it isn't then it's off topic.

There is a thread in General Motoring for that side of things


Trev Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 16:33:42
it is about TV rights in case you missed it - please keep up
oldtimer Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 13:29:19
It is hard to see how boys (and girls) playing with their balls has any validity in a Supercars topic.
abhibeckert Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 13:12:16
quote:
Originally posted by joe5619

I think people are DREAMING if they think FTA is getting 1st spot in TV deal.. NO major sport has gone this way, so can't see it happening. FTA will get something, but if you think FTA is getting all races, in full & live.. DREAMING!!

The two big players in sport, AFL and NRL, both have FTA games every weekend and it's more than most people have enough time to watch anyway. And the best games are always the FTA ones.

Only the most hardcore fans pay for content and many of those use the official footy apps which are far cheaper than Kayo or Foxtel and often free as a bundle with other services (like a mobile phone with telstra).

The Supercars equivalent would be to show the races on Free to Air as well as YouTube, make qualifying/practice/support categories available on Foxtel/Kayo and offer Superview subscriptions to Australian fans as well as international ones.

Will that happen? I dunno. But I think it should, if Supercars wants to keep their large fan base for the long term.

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