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AlbertM Posted - 29 Nov 2019 : 20:38:09
New video every two weeks

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrKewO56IQ

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNp8usiSuc
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bigcol Posted - 09 Mar 2020 : 19:38:32
quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

Mostech build engines exclusively for DJRP and T8 source them from KRE.

TK wanted to remain a 'one stop shop', retaining their engine build department which would potentially make them more attractive to a new manufacturer should one enter the game. They did approach Tickford, presumably for their engine IP but the costs was prohibitive so they scored an old spec SBR engine to get them started.

Drop the bespoke 5.0 stuff and go full NASCAR donks I reckon. Better sounding, development well and truly done, plenty of power and they are the same blocks anyway. Can't see them being more expensive than the current SC donks.




Probably cheaper. A mate has 2016 spec NASCAR engine in his XC hardtop
AlbertM Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 08:57:49
Part 7: https://youtu.be/gGveIizAD9Q

Part 8: https://youtu.be/49t6rcJQ-jI

Part 9: https://youtu.be/O3ySk7wKadI
Kieron302 Posted - 12 Feb 2020 : 18:29:48
Mostech build engines exclusively for DJRP and T8 source them from KRE.

TK wanted to remain a 'one stop shop', retaining their engine build department which would potentially make them more attractive to a new manufacturer should one enter the game. They did approach Tickford, presumably for their engine IP but the costs was prohibitive so they scored an old spec SBR engine to get them started.

Drop the bespoke 5.0 stuff and go full NASCAR donks I reckon. Better sounding, development well and truly done, plenty of power and they are the same blocks anyway. Can't see them being more expensive than the current SC donks.
oldtimer Posted - 12 Feb 2020 : 12:05:06
quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

After watching this i can't believe how many custom parts they make. A billet sump for starters. That's a big chunk of metal to start with. Then look at all the throttle body pieces and intake runners plus all the other bits and pieces. Rather than the lip service supercars have paid to cost cutting how easy and cheaper would be to get someone to either standardise for each engines and then get someone outside of supercars to make them. They could fabricate the sump out sheet aluminium and save a fortune.
No good letting 888 do them you'd pay ten times what the product would be worth if it was done by an outside company and Supercars needs to ban exclusive rights to manufacture certain parts like 888 do for the Holden teams. I believe this was the reason why the Kelly's went to Ford


And this is coming from a V8 Central renowned mid-pack team of monkeys. I'd say 888 and Penske would have more equipment, running longer with more staff pushing development further (that's racing I guess).

Certainly looks like a few bits could be standardised.
Morris and Ingall went through the positives of running crate engines in one of their shows. Standard LS/Coyote setup, all managed by the computer to equalise parity...
Pretty logical idea compared to the current irrelevant and expensive donks we still run.

And agree re 888 running the Holden support. If a team has the means, they should be able to go for it.





I could be wrong, but I understood that both 888 and Penske buy their engines from a third party supplier, as does Erebus, BJR and probably Team 18, TEKNO/Sydney and MSR and previously GRM.

Since proven Ford engines were available, it seems an odd choice to build from scratch, at least initially, considering the tight time frames.

The Supercar engines are far too expensive because of mandated measurements parts. Even the major supplier says so and they also build engines for sprintcars etc..

Having said that, the Todd Kelly videos are superb and give us an understanding of the complexities of current racing. It used to be simpler.
skaifeman Posted - 12 Feb 2020 : 11:52:59
quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

After watching this i can't believe how many custom parts they make. A billet sump for starters. That's a big chunk of metal to start with. Then look at all the throttle body pieces and intake runners plus all the other bits and pieces. Rather than the lip service supercars have paid to cost cutting how easy and cheaper would be to get someone to either standardise for each engines and then get someone outside of supercars to make them. They could fabricate the sump out sheet aluminium and save a fortune.
No good letting 888 do them you'd pay ten times what the product would be worth if it was done by an outside company and Supercars needs to ban exclusive rights to manufacture certain parts like 888 do for the Holden teams. I believe this was the reason why the Kelly's went to Ford


And this is coming from a V8 Central renowned mid-pack team of monkeys. I'd say 888 and Penske would have more equipment, running longer with more staff pushing development further (that's racing I guess).

Certainly looks like a few bits could be standardised.
Morris and Ingall went through the positives of running crate engines in one of their shows. Standard LS/Coyote setup, all managed by the computer to equalise parity...
Pretty logical idea compared to the current irrelevant and expensive donks we still run.

And agree re 888 running the Holden support. If a team has the means, they should be able to go for it.

bigcol Posted - 12 Feb 2020 : 08:44:18
After watching this i can't believe how many custom parts they make. A billet sump for starters. That's a big chunk of metal to start with. Then look at all the throttle body pieces and intake runners plus all the other bits and pieces. Rather than the lip service supercars have paid to cost cutting how easy and cheaper would be to get someone to either standardise for each engines and then get someone outside of supercars to make them. They could fabricate the sump out sheet aluminium and save a fortune.
No good letting 888 do them you'd pay ten times what the product would be worth if it was done by an outside company and Supercars needs to ban exclusive rights to manufacture certain parts like 888 do for the Holden teams. I believe this was the reason why the Kelly's went to Ford
troy01505 Posted - 10 Feb 2020 : 07:41:01
This will be the first time Kelly Racing have more talent behind the wheel then Tickford, hopefully their crew can step up and to fight the big ****s ,ah guns
lyro Posted - 09 Feb 2020 : 20:44:12
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by Bartlett

Hope you’re right Djr. Always had a soft spot for the Kelly’s and is love nothing more than to beat Tickford. Andres a bit of a gun.



Even the other driver, the old guy, could snag a win too.



I'm with you OT - a lot of respect for RK.
oldtimer Posted - 09 Feb 2020 : 14:52:37
quote:
Originally posted by Bartlett

Hope you’re right Djr. Always had a soft spot for the Kelly’s and is love nothing more than to beat Tickford. Andres a bit of a gun.



Even the other driver, the old guy, could snag a win too.
JD Posted - 09 Feb 2020 : 13:32:48
I can definitely see Andre shaking up the establishment with his Mustang.
Bartlett Posted - 09 Feb 2020 : 11:35:29
Hope you’re right Djr. Always had a soft spot for the Kelly’s and is love nothing more than to beat Tickford. Andres a bit of a gun.
DJRford Posted - 08 Feb 2020 : 23:03:07
I'm tipping them to do well with only the two cars to focus on. Andre to possibly beat all Tickford drivers in the championship and grab his first win along the way.
Bartlett Posted - 08 Feb 2020 : 21:46:29
So how are they going to go? I reckon they’re a year too late to get on the stang bandwagon. Last year anyone in a mustang was quick because of the aero, but i reckon this year might be a different story after they’ve been pegged back a bit. Car 17 will still be the pace setter, but I reckon life will change for Tickfords B team now that the advantage has been taken away/reduced, if indeed it has... maybe I’m just being optimistic!
CP Posted - 07 Feb 2020 : 21:22:15
I binge watched these the other and the technical stuff, in terms of talking about it was a lot more open than I thought it would be.
AlbertM Posted - 07 Feb 2020 : 16:49:17
Part 6: https://youtu.be/aLdqln6rCvk

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