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REM Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 07:57:04
A lot of talk round and about concerning WAU going to BMW and this is why Chaz is happy to go there...but Roland is a smart cookie and keeps his cards very close to his chest.....he has even been known to set re herrings ala "building new fords" in mid-later 2009,when he was already building VE's and it's very hard to see a future for Holden in the market (and any product that they could race with past 2021).....could T8 head WAU off at the pass? It would seem a pretty good fit, I'd bet on T8 over WAU anyday....
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SetonFan Posted - 01 Mar 2020 : 00:08:16
Manufacturers such as BMW may find competing against a Mustang more palatable than a Falcon or Commodore though, however I also still find it unlikely.
Alan53 Posted - 29 Feb 2020 : 17:42:20
What possible logic is there in BMW and Mercedes competing in a parity formula against cars that are pieces of crap in comparison?Mercedes blocked any use of their name in 2013 and the category has sunk since then.
Supercars have been chasing BMW forever with no reciprocal interest.

oldtimer Posted - 24 Feb 2020 : 10:52:43
Mercedes 888 seems more likely as they already work together in GT3. Plus the silly restrictions on engines, that cost Betty so much, no longer exist.

On the other hand, RedBull has good connections with Honda.
skaifeman Posted - 24 Feb 2020 : 09:45:19
Is there any truth to this, or just REM suggesting that T8 will once again get one over Walkinshaw?

murph_fan51 Posted - 22 Feb 2020 : 18:59:31
I see the RBR cars already have the BMW colours, white, light blue and dark blue.
skaifeman Posted - 18 Jan 2020 : 21:10:14
quote:
Originally posted by Mechz

This deal with Merc-AMG would put water on those BMW-T8 flames... https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/01/15/triple-eight-boasts-factory-support-for-b12hr-tilt/


Was there any flames to begin with?

troy01505 Posted - 18 Jan 2020 : 10:25:18
quote:
Originally posted by Mechz

This deal with Merc-AMG would put water on those BMW-T8 flames... https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/01/15/triple-eight-boasts-factory-support-for-b12hr-tilt/



A one race deal doesnít put water on a thing!
Mechz Posted - 17 Jan 2020 : 21:18:12
This deal with Merc-AMG would put water on those BMW-T8 flames... https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/01/15/triple-eight-boasts-factory-support-for-b12hr-tilt/
powderpuff Posted - 10 Jan 2020 : 11:54:09
quote:

Red Bull is Triple 8's primary sponsor and Caltex is their secondary one. Those are the primary logos on the car. Sure it also says "Holden" in a couple places but there's no logo and no colours - because even though they're the "factory" team Holden doesn't give them much money compared to Red Bull/Caltex. Triple 8 will be just fine without Holden.

Holden does pay the small teams - that's all of them race in a ZB, and unlike Triple 8 some of those teams are struggling financially. We lost GRM for example. Take away even holden's meagre funding will make life difficult for them and that will be ten times worse if it coincides with building a Gen3 car.

There are difficult times ahead for the sport.



Most of this is factually incorrect..
I'd state "In my opinion" before talking about contractual arrangements between the teams and sponsors. It's just false noise:-)
abhibeckert Posted - 09 Jan 2020 : 14:35:15
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

Other way around. Holden pay 888, Holden don't pay small teams.

Gen 3 is going to be very expensive. It won't be just re skinning an existing chassis like VF to ZB.


Red Bull is Triple 8's primary sponsor and Caltex is their secondary one. Those are the primary logos on the car. Sure it also says "Holden" in a couple places but there's no logo and no colours - because even though they're the "factory" team Holden doesn't give them much money compared to Red Bull/Caltex. Triple 8 will be just fine without Holden.

Holden does pay the small teams - that's all of them race in a ZB, and unlike Triple 8 some of those teams are struggling financially. We lost GRM for example. Take away even holden's meagre funding will make life difficult for them and that will be ten times worse if it coincides with building a Gen3 car.

There are difficult times ahead for the sport.

quote:
Originally posted by joe5619

Holden either has a new showroom car to sell for 2022 & beyond or they donít. Given the planning cycles, Holden would already know this information & if no car is available, then they have no option but to leave Supercars.

Holden might plan to rebrand someone else's car as a commodore (maybe the Opel? Or a Kia? Or a Camry? Who knows it could even be a Model S or something crazy). If that is being negotiated then no matter how far along talks are until the contract is signed it might not happen.
joe5619 Posted - 09 Jan 2020 : 13:26:31
The next few years will make or break this series!!

If (and I still think it's a huge if), BWM come into the series, it will be with WAU. Between the WAU links (I forget which owner has the links) overseas, Chaz & youíd assume current talks, it's only going to be WAU or nothing.

T8 would be talking with Holden & would have a fair idea if itís already a 100% no for 2022. Holden either has a new showroom car to sell for 2022 & beyond (I.E. Camaro or something else) or they donít. Given the planning cycles, Holden would already know this information & if no car is available, then they have no option but to leave Supercars. If there is a car, then T8 will be in talks to get extended sponsorship, but no guarantees.

So, getting another manufacturer like BWM would be great because it's not going to survive with only Ford if Holden are out.
adzy_B Posted - 09 Jan 2020 : 13:06:26
- edit wrong thread
JD Posted - 09 Jan 2020 : 12:50:45
Obviously you aren't aware that BMW love Chas

Read this article and comments from BMW's motorsport director regarding Chas himself.

But I agree whether this will all actually transform into a Supercar squad remains to be seen but a main ingredient for a BMW/WAU partnership is now secured.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/bmw-keen-on-full-time-2020-mostert-deal/
murph_fan51 Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 19:07:10
quote:
Originally posted by JD

It wouldn't surprise me that WAU have already locked away BMW and Chas was the bait or he jumped due to BMW's involvement.


I just can't see BMW signing up to this series because of one driver?
Gen 3 would have to look pretty good for a start, and BMW would surely know where Gen 3 is heading if they are planning an entry into the series now.
Im guessing their 3 series would be the car if they entered.
AlbertM Posted - 07 Jan 2020 : 21:23:31
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert



All the big teams will easily find sponsors to cover the cost to switch to a different car. It's the small teams that will be in strife if Holden leaves the sport.



Other way around. Holden pay 888, Holden don't pay small teams.

Gen 3 is going to be very expensive. It won't be just re skinning an existing chassis like VF to ZB.

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