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supercar_freek
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  20:03:55  Show Profile Send supercar_freek a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I guess your are right REM. Not much is there. Only 10 holdens and 10 fords at the moment. Maybe all of them should hang up their boots???

13 Steven Richards
14 Lee Holdsworth
15 Jason Bright
16 Jason Richards
17 Dean Canto
18 Paul Radisich
19 Steve Owen
20 Max Wilson
21 Paul Morris
22 Shane Price
23 Cameron McConville
24 Jason Bargwanna
25 John Bowe
26 Fabian Coulthard
27 Adam Macrow
28 Paul Dumbrell
29 Andrew Jones
30 Brad Jones
31 Jack Perkins
32 Alan Gurr
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FOX 42
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  20:58:45  Show Profile Send FOX 42 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by REM

agreed ....Munro and Muprh is a 'classic' example of an average driver being made to look good by TWR equipment..take away that 'massive' car adavantage and what have you got....not much it seems!



Yea I know what you mean.
Imagine what Ambrose could do in a current TWPG car
It would be a cake walk for him.
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REM
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  21:29:20  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You have lost me a little Sf...I believe that most of those blokes are/could be capable of being champion in a TWR car..such is their advantage. Coneversly Murph..... once out of a TWR car does not appear to be anything special!

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skaifeyhrt
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  21:31:22  Show Profile Send skaifeyhrt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
He is only one bathurst win behind Skaife and you can't say the man has no talent when he still has the quickest ever bathurst lap recorded.



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spoonster05
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  00:13:45  Show Profile Send spoonster05 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by REM

You have lost me a little Sf...I believe that most of those blokes are/could be capable of being champion in a TWR car..such is their advantage. Coneversly Murph..... once out of a TWR car does not appear to be anything special!



You could say the same for Lowndes at 00 Motorsport, was really only once Lowndes got back into gun cars he did well again....

Or Bowe away from DJR, etc



Edited by - spoonster05 on 17 Apr 2007 00:15:31
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  00:15:02  Show Profile  Visit MunroGTS's Homepage Send MunroGTS a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Skaife's won races, in dogs of cars.
Murph hasn't, Lowndes hasn't.

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bigcol
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  00:37:12  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Care to enlighten us Munro because Skaife has never set foot in a dog of a HRT car. They just don't make dogs anymore. They might of back in the early days but certainly not since Skaife started driving or owning them.

Now in the Ambrose topic you claimed the 00 car that Lowndes first drove was a dog even though it was a SBR car. Now correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Lowndes win a race that year in 00 car.

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spoonster05
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  00:51:48  Show Profile Send spoonster05 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
But Murph has won races in non-TWR cars as well....


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MunroGTS
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  01:48:43  Show Profile  Visit MunroGTS's Homepage Send MunroGTS a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Care to enlighten us Munro because Skaife has never set foot in a dog of a HRT car. They just don't make dogs anymore. They might of back in the early days but certainly not since Skaife started driving or owning them.


Skaife won races in the 2004 HRT car, "mate". That was a dog of a car. HMS engine, completely new setup, down on setup knowledge etc. DOG of a car.

Lowndes won one race in a 00 Motorsport car.....how many years of trying though?
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BONES
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  05:48:36  Show Profile  Visit BONES's Homepage Send BONES a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The 2004 HRT Car Was Only a dog by HRT standards, and was mainly cursed by bad luck more than anything . . . . . Now where did I put that voodoo doll of Skaifey

Paul Morris would have killed to have that car.


Edited by - BONES on 17 Apr 2007 05:55:44
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Murph51Fan
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  06:00:05  Show Profile Send Murph51Fan a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yes Murph should habg up his helmet shouldnt he. in the top half of the championship. Does anyone remember before the season started JAson Richards will be regurally out peforming Murph?? That ony happened in on race when Muroh had a mechanical and whos in front in the points?
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pete55
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  06:04:13  Show Profile  Visit pete55's Homepage  Send pete55 an ICQ Message  Click to see pete55's MSN Messenger address Send pete55 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by crazyspoon05

But Murph has won races in non-TWR cars as well....



Must have been before TW came on to the scene.
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Murph51Fan
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  06:18:30  Show Profile Send Murph51Fan a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
He won with Fre Gibson, a very bad ca if you ask me, he won for SCAR. he was actually wanted by SBR and if he said yes Ambrose wouldnt of had that steller car
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pete55
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  06:26:53  Show Profile  Visit pete55's Homepage  Send pete55 an ICQ Message  Click to see pete55's MSN Messenger address Send pete55 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
At that time SCAR was part of the HMS empire.
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bigcol
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Posted - 17 Apr 2007 :  06:41:42  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Nothing wrong with the 04 HRT cars.
Once again just your opinion. No cold hard facts.
Those 04 HRT cars couldn't have been that bad as they always qualified well and had good race pace.
Just because they couldn't match it with Ambrose in the SBR Falcon doesn't mean that automatically they're dogs

Every Holden team in the field would have given their first born for those HRT cars.
Mistakes cost HRT more than anything in 04

Didn't Lowndes win in his first year of driving the 00 car.

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