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HRTKLR
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 :  17:47:49  Show Profile Send HRTKLR a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
She'll plead "not guilty" to the charge of stealing the 05 from the crash scene.

Um... does she understand what stealing is? Perhaps her lawyer should buy her a dictionary.

Jane, were you in possession of the 05 number? Yes? Was it given to you? No? Well that's stealing sweetheart.

PLEAD GUILTY.
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 :  20:59:35  Show Profile Send spoonster05 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Lowndes_is_Legend

Ok i know exacley what i am saying and doing and i take responsibilty for that, i belive i did not "OVERREACT" as i belive eberybody is making a big fuss about something so small, ok so it was Brockies crash but tell me would there be soo much fuss over someone elses crash you didnt know i dont think soo, alot of people see Brocky as a "LEGEND" status, but personally i dont so he was consistant at one race and some people have achieved a bit more than him i.e. Skaife has won the championship 5 times and Brocky only 3. I also think it is a bit silly that a 61 year old is still racing. I as a young bloke do not look up to Brocky as people here did because when i was born there was Skaife,Lowndes etc. So i dont right about Brocky as a fan would!



So you'd be fine with someone taking a wallet/mobile phone or something from a crash site or scavenging decent parts to use on their car then ?

Regardless of who was involved in the accident no-one has the right to take any part of a crashed vehicle unless it's for use in an investigation or needs to be removed for the site to be cleared..

It's like the two teenagers who took the hubcaps off the fatal accident just down the road from us a couple of weeks back...



Edited by - spoonster05 on 04 Apr 2007 22:45:08
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  11:01:03  Show Profile  Visit Falconcrazy's Homepage Send Falconcrazy a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
From the news reports last night she has the full support of the brock family who beleive she shouldnt have been charged and shouldnt be penalised, if hes family can understand all she wanted was a memento of one of her heroes to give to her kids later on surely a few of his fans could realise they are making a big deal over nothing it was a scrap of fibreglass.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  11:40:09  Show Profile  Click to see Lowndes_is_Legend's MSN Messenger address Send Lowndes_is_Legend a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
That is exacley what i am trying to say thankyou FALCONCRAZY and CRAZYSPOON i woudnt be fine with someone stealing a phone or a wallet getting stolen but a bit of fibre glass come on.I am also trying to say that if the headline was on lets say for example page 22 reading this "piece of fibre glass stolen from car" there woudnt be as much deparcle if it was on page 1 reading this" PIECE OF FIBREGLASS STOLEN FORM BROCKY'S CRASH" why becasue
1, Its Brocky
2, He is Famous
i doubt there would be such a big topic about it if it wasnt someone famous or that you didnt know.
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Falconcrazy
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  13:31:27  Show Profile  Visit Falconcrazy's Homepage Send Falconcrazy a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
as ive mentioned previously mate, my best friend almost died in a head on collision a few years ago and his mobile went missing and it was the last thing on anyones minds, it never made a mention in the paper only the accident did, no-one cared at all.
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  13:59:22  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
even if it was a bit of fibreglass that had been the cause of the accident? what if he had knocked it loose on a previous corner which cut the tyre leading to the tree further down the road? and you have taken that one piece that showed why the accident occurred in the first place... i don't give a rats who it was, it was not right.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  14:12:58  Show Profile  Visit Falconcrazy's Homepage Send Falconcrazy a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Sonic, i agree if it was something that was pivotal in the crash investigation it would be a different story for example a blown out tyre or a major chasis component but it wasnt so we have to judge the incident on the facts and that is it was a shred of fibreglass and brocks family have given the lady there blessing.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  15:11:52  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
guess what i'm suggesting FC is that as general public what the heck would we know is or isn't important in the crash investigation... what we might think of as 'just a souvenir' could be worth so much more to someone who is trying to figure out what happened..

i do see the side of the argument you are presenting tho...

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  15:43:34  Show Profile  Visit Falconcrazy's Homepage Send Falconcrazy a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You know i respect your opinions sonic (from way back in the day) and dont want to seem arguamentive, ive always had the impression we share similar opinions on most things (not all though mate) after all you are a holden fan :)

Speaking on the topic though did i hear correctly somewere that someone in qld has bought the car and is rebuilding it for a museum piece?
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  16:04:45  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
did hear that... seems sorta morbid way to remember Brocky tho..

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  16:26:36  Show Profile  Click to see w00dsy's MSN Messenger address Send w00dsy a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
i think there can be a fine line in this sort of thing, if you are watching the racing and a car crashes and a bit of the car lands next to you, or in your lap, are you entitled to keep it? But if you go to the crashed car and yank a bit of it off, then that's different, isn't it? I do think it's very tacky to take something from a fatal accident though, whether it's your hero or not.
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  16:35:08  Show Profile  Visit R2J2G's Homepage  Click to see R2J2G's MSN Messenger address Send R2J2G a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by w00dsy

i think there can be a fine line in this sort of thing, if you are watching the racing and a car crashes and a bit of the car lands next to you, or in your lap, are you entitled to keep it? But if you go to the crashed car and yank a bit of it off, then that's different, isn't it? I do think it's very tacky to take something from a fatal accident though, whether it's your hero or not.


i would tend to agree..
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  16:56:42  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by w00dsy

i think there can be a fine line in this sort of thing, if you are watching the racing and a car crashes and a bit of the car lands next to you, or in your lap, are you entitled to keep it? But if you go to the crashed car and yank a bit of it off, then that's different, isn't it? I do think it's very tacky to take something from a fatal accident though, whether it's your hero or not.



souvenir from a crashed car at the track is one thing... from a roadside fatal is a very different scenario... yeah Brocky was in a 'race' but it was on public roads too which adds to it all..

something that bugged me with it too tho is that she was in a position of authority and memorabilia of a dead man was worth more than her integrity... poor effort.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:28:13  Show Profile Send PVDA a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It was mainly this part of your original post

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Originally posted by Lowndes_is_Legend

Or let me guess in your opinion the map guy and ggreat mate of brock killed him???????


You quite wrongly assume that my description of it as a crime scene meant I was appointing blame to what was an accident.

It wouldn't matter if it was Peter Brock, Fred Nerk or Micheal Schumacher if they have a fatal crash in Australia it will be preserved as a crime scene and treated as such while the investigations are undertaken. The Mark Porter crash at Bathurst & the marshal fatality at the F1GP a few years ago went through exactly the same investigation with minor variations to suit local state laws.

I've been involved in the post crash side of several fatal motorsport accidents over the past 22 years I've been a trackside marshal and as far as most of us are concerned all drivers are equal.

The biggest problem with the internet is we don't all know each other so might not realise the credentials of the person we are debating with and if they know what they are talking about or if it's a load of BS.

Enough said, time to move on and learn from it and enjoy the racing
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:49:49  Show Profile Send Azza500 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by PVDA

It was mainly this part of your original post

quote:
Originally posted by Lowndes_is_Legend

Or let me guess in your opinion the map guy and ggreat mate of brock killed him???????


You quite wrongly assume that my description of it as a crime scene meant I was appointing blame to what was an accident.

It wouldn't matter if it was Peter Brock, Fred Nerk or Micheal Schumacher if they have a fatal crash in Australia it will be preserved as a crime scene and treated as such while the investigations are undertaken. The Mark Porter crash at Bathurst & the marshal fatality at the F1GP a few years ago went through exactly the same investigation with minor variations to suit local state laws.

I've been involved in the post crash side of several fatal motorsport accidents over the past 22 years I've been a trackside marshal and as far as most of us are concerned all drivers are equal.

The biggest problem with the internet is we don't all know each other so might not realise the credentials of the person we are debating with and if they know what they are talking about or if it's a load of BS.

Enough said, time to move on and learn from it and enjoy the racing



exactly mate porters example is a good one as i belive he was taken to hospital only to be pronounced deceased instead of at the track which would have the potencial to stop the race weekend until all investigations had been finished!!!
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