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v8showdown
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  11:42:35  Show Profile  Visit v8showdown's Homepage  Click to see v8showdown's MSN Messenger address Send v8showdown a Private Message
Poll Question:
Who out of the Austrialian drivers are legands that are still alive

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Results:
Alan Moffat   [13%] 15 votes
Jim Richards   [30%] 35 votes
Mark Webber   [0%] 0 votes
Marcous Ambrose   [8%] 9 votes
Mark Skaife   [11%] 13 votes
Craig Lowndes   [5%] 6 votes
Dick Johnson   [27%] 32 votes
Colin Bond   [0%] 0 votes
Larry Perkins   [2%] 2 votes
Other Please State   [4%] 5 votes


Poll Status: Locked  »»   Total Votes: 117 counted  »»   Last Vote: 22 Jun 2007 14:27:16 


Edited by - v8showdown on 16 Apr 2007 13:23:36

shr
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  11:53:13  Show Profile Send shr a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
craig is not yet a legend, casey stoner is a rider, mark skaife no, alan moffat well yes, etc.

DJ is the one that stands out on this list, he has done wonders for himself & the sport in general.
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HOLDEN 1
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  12:06:20  Show Profile Send HOLDEN 1 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Jim Richards





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Henry
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  12:33:22  Show Profile  Visit Henry's Homepage Send Henry a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There are any number of those you listed that qualify... and many you haven't...

IMHO, legendary status is best evaluated once the driver in question has retired from active duties... so...

Moffat, most definitely. Allan did more to develop "racing driver" as a bona fide paying profession in this country than most before or since. On a race-by-race basis, he was certainly one of the more successful drivers in the category's history. On his day, a ferocious and courageous competitor, and a great car developer.

Jim Richards again most definitely, a real talent and a drive-anything-anywhere racer. Smooth and easy on the gear behind the wheel, as hard-nosed as anyone, he was one of the guys who contributed in no small part to the Brock Legend.

Dick Johnson's rise from beginnings that were constantly portrayed as being a humble self-taught Queensland grease-monkey, to one of the most successful tin-top stars in the country belied the fact that he was a clever car-builder, and a talented steerer. My pick, as he was my boyhood hero...

Colin Bond? Another driver-anything-anywhere guy, he was rated by some of the world rallying stars of the 70's as their equal, although he was probably having too much fun to tackle the world seriously... or to remain a true contender as long as his contemporaries...

But what about John Goss, the only man to win both the Bathurst 1000 and the Australia GP? Alan Jones, who not only raced tourers hard, but flogged the world's best at the sport's pinnacle? Twice Gold Star champion, F5000 icon, and the man who made the Camaro more than a curiosity at Bathurst, Kevin Bartlett? Larry Perkins, the man who spannered his own car to a European F3 title, and engineered and drove more than a good handful of Bathurst winners?

Bob Morris?

Or Bob Jane?

Or Harry Firth?

Allan Grice, the inimitable Oil Can Harry, who played the Europeans at the own game?

Legends all, for mine....


...and apologies for any names I can't think of, but should...

Dad once said "son, arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. Even if you're a grand master, playing at your best, the pigeon is just going to **** on the board and then walk around like it won".
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Azza
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  12:41:11  Show Profile  Visit Azza's Homepage Send Azza a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
sir jack brabham?
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HOLDEN 1
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  13:00:45  Show Profile Send HOLDEN 1 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Larry Perkins stands out





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skaifeyhrt
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  13:03:29  Show Profile Send skaifeyhrt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Gentleman Jimmy for me, go KIWI!!!



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spoonster05
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  13:07:56  Show Profile Send spoonster05 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Larry should be up there, made it into F1 the hard way

Sir Jack definitely should be there and what about Geoff Brabham (Le Mans winner, multiple IMSA championship winner, 3 podiums in Indycar races, etc)

I don't think guys like Webber and Ambrose should be classed as legends just yet


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stucar17
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  14:25:33  Show Profile Send stucar17 a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Henry

There are any number of those you listed that qualify... and many you haven't...

IMHO, legendary status is best evaluated once the driver in question has retired from active duties... so...

Moffat, most definitely. Allan did more to develop "racing driver" as a bona fide paying profession in this country than most before or since. On a race-by-race basis, he was certainly one of the more successful drivers in the category's history. On his day, a ferocious and courageous competitor, and a great car developer.

Jim Richards again most definitely, a real talent and a drive-anything-anywhere racer. Smooth and easy on the gear behind the wheel, as hard-nosed as anyone, he was one of the guys who contributed in no small part to the Brock Legend.

Dick Johnson's rise from beginnings that were constantly portrayed as being a humble self-taught Queensland grease-monkey, to one of the most successful tin-top stars in the country belied the fact that he was a clever car-builder, and a talented steerer. My pick, as he was my boyhood hero...

Colin Bond? Another driver-anything-anywhere guy, he was rated by some of the world rallying stars of the 70's as their equal, although he was probably having too much fun to tackle the world seriously... or to remain a true contender as long as his contemporaries...

But what about John Goss, the only man to win both the Bathurst 1000 and the Australia GP? Alan Jones, who not only raced tourers hard, but flogged the world's best at the sport's pinnacle? Twice Gold Star champion, F5000 icon, and the man who made the Camaro more than a curiosity at Bathurst, Kevin Bartlett? Larry Perkins, the man who spannered his own car to a European F3 title, and engineered and drove more than a good handful of Bathurst winners?

Bob Morris?

Or Bob Jane?

Or Harry Firth?

Allan Grice, the inimitable Oil Can Harry, who played the Europeans at the own game?

Legends all, for mine....


...and apologies for any names I can't think of, but should...



well said
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Ford Tru Blu
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  14:29:19  Show Profile Send Ford Tru Blu a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Not really into bikes but Mick Doohan won a few world championships. I'll never forget the images of him crashing his bike and landing in the middle of the track, and he when he tried to stand up and get out of harms way his legs just were incapable through injury.
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WebberSkaife
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  14:44:44  Show Profile  Visit WebberSkaife's Homepage Send WebberSkaife a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
tough call. have to say skaifey then very closely perkins johnson and richards
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  15:58:17  Show Profile  Visit thunderstruck's Homepage Send thunderstruck a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Henry

There are any number of those you listed that qualify... and many you haven't...

IMHO, legendary status is best evaluated once the driver in question has retired from active duties... so...

Moffat, most definitely. Allan did more to develop "racing driver" as a bona fide paying profession in this country than most before or since. On a race-by-race basis, he was certainly one of the more successful drivers in the category's history. On his day, a ferocious and courageous competitor, and a great car developer.

Jim Richards again most definitely, a real talent and a drive-anything-anywhere racer. Smooth and easy on the gear behind the wheel, as hard-nosed as anyone, he was one of the guys who contributed in no small part to the Brock Legend.

Dick Johnson's rise from beginnings that were constantly portrayed as being a humble self-taught Queensland grease-monkey, to one of the most successful tin-top stars in the country belied the fact that he was a clever car-builder, and a talented steerer. My pick, as he was my boyhood hero...

Colin Bond? Another driver-anything-anywhere guy, he was rated by some of the world rallying stars of the 70's as their equal, although he was probably having too much fun to tackle the world seriously... or to remain a true contender as long as his contemporaries...

But what about John Goss, the only man to win both the Bathurst 1000 and the Australia GP? Alan Jones, who not only raced tourers hard, but flogged the world's best at the sport's pinnacle? Twice Gold Star champion, F5000 icon, and the man who made the Camaro more than a curiosity at Bathurst, Kevin Bartlett? Larry Perkins, the man who spannered his own car to a European F3 title, and engineered and drove more than a good handful of Bathurst winners?

Bob Morris?

Or Bob Jane?

Or Harry Firth?

Allan Grice, the inimitable Oil Can Harry, who played the Europeans at the own game?

Legends all, for mine....


...and apologies for any names I can't think of, but should...


I couldnt have said it any better!
The term legend is a funny one to try find the true meaning of
Seems like these days you can win a couple of major titles / races etc and maybe write a book and they call drivers legends?? Its not something that can be earned in a few short years I dont think?
I could add the names of Geoghegan and Beechey, maybe even Frank Gardner, to your list also! The list could get longer ??
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Dasha
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  17:31:30  Show Profile  Visit Dasha's Homepage  Click to see Dasha's MSN Messenger address  Send Dasha a Yahoo! Message Send Dasha a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Easy one for me "DICK JOHNSON" without a doubt.
DICK legend JOHNSON.

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bigcol
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  17:52:50  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Mate , every one on that list of yours qualifies in their own right to legend status. Like Henry said , there are plenty of others as well.

For me personally i can't go past Dick Johnson

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HRTKLR
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Posted - 16 Apr 2007 :  17:59:14  Show Profile Send HRTKLR a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Thexton is a bit of a 'legend'... it's definitely a term that gets bandied about too much.
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djr18fan
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Jim isnt an Australian, and has Colin Bond given up Canadian Citizenship?

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