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ggitt
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  22:43:21  Show Profile  Visit ggitt's Homepage Send ggitt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Like most categories costs are dependent on how many crew, fly or drive, transporters or trailers, new tyres or old. Yes you can spend 60k, but you can also spend 20k and have alot of fun learning tracks and how to drive. For a category that offers close racing, v8s, dog boxes, locked diffs, motec if you want it. Its great value. I am surprised Supercar teams don't run some of their young guns in the category just to teach them the ropes.
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Copper
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  19:12:49  Show Profile  Visit Copper's Homepage Send Copper a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Commodore Cup is a great class to be involved in because it is the closest category on the ladder to the "Main" game and should be the feeder class to the Fujitsu series if managed in the right way as gg mentioned.

Only problem is that over a number of years recently the regulations havent been enforced to any great degree leaving more than a few "grey" areas on a number of cars.

Most of the drivers & crews are great to race & socialise with and some others think that because they have plenty of cash to splash around that they can buy their way to the front but still, even with the best gear cant win, but cause carnage to most others everywhere they go.

It has evolved from the state series class that it was started as 10 years ago into a National class over the last 3 or 4 years but along the way because of extra expences incurred to teams to run a national series it has dropped slightly in numbers.

With a new committee on board for 2007 things may and need to change around to make this class the legitimate category it has the potential to become.
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ggitt
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  18:26:09  Show Profile  Visit ggitt's Homepage Send ggitt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Copper


Only problem is that over a number of years recently the regulations havent been enforced to any great degree leaving more than a few "grey" areas on a number of cars.



It has evolved from the state series class that it was started as 10 years ago into a National class over the last 3 or 4 years but along the way because of extra expences incurred to teams to run a national series it has dropped slightly in numbers.



1. I think the checking of cam shafts this season was pretty serious.

2. Many of the grey areas have been cleaned up with this years rule changes.

3. The Commodore Cup has run as a National series for many years now. In its early days it ran under State and National banners. But the numbers have remained consistently strong.



Edited by - ggitt on 03 Dec 2006 21:15:17
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Oaksnaf
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  20:34:20  Show Profile  Visit Oaksnaf's Homepage  Click to see Oaksnaf's MSN Messenger address Send Oaksnaf a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Looking to see the cars at a Victorian track near me during next year. Will be interesting to see who takes to the front, perhaps D'Agostin can claim the championship next year.
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  21:11:41  Show Profile  Visit ggitt's Homepage Send ggitt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You will have 3 chances. Winton, P.I and Sandown.
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Copper
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  22:42:30  Show Profile  Visit Copper's Homepage Send Copper a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Checking of "Some but not all" cams was a step in the right direction as was the cleaning up of "Some but not all" grey areas but maybe it is a case of TOO little TOO late.

This class needs to be ruled with an iron fist for it to regain any credibility in the eyes of the motorsport community at large as it has zero at the present.

Driving Standards, Code of Conduct are some of many issues need to be addressed and rectified in the coming period.
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Motormouth
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The final round of the Commodore Cup at Eastern Creek will be telecast this Sunday on SBS Speedweek, 12pm-2pm.

I think next year will be a big step forward for the series in terms of media exposure and public image.

It is a great stepping stone to the V8 Supercar Development Series, because like the V8s, Commodore Cup cars run locked diffs, therefore their handling characteristics are similar to the V8s, although obviously with a lot less power. I think Zukanovic will be one to watch in the 2007 Development Series.

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ggitt
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  13:03:09  Show Profile  Visit ggitt's Homepage Send ggitt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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This class needs to be ruled with an iron fist for it to regain any credibility in the eyes of the motorsport community at large as it has zero at the present.




Sounds like the views of a disgruntled ex-competitor.
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Copper
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  17:02:33  Show Profile  Visit Copper's Homepage Send Copper a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Sounds like the views of a disgruntled ex-competitor.


Can it also be an interested onlooker who can see the category in a different light and not as a person who has been very very close to the cc management since the creation of the class?

GG,not everyone is a "disgruntled ex-competitor" as you put it and if they or anybody that has an opinion is classed as that by cc people, then cc must have burnt a few over the years.

Can anybody that has an alternative opinion about the class be genuinely interested in its continuance as a future category or not?
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ggitt
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  20:30:12  Show Profile  Visit ggitt's Homepage Send ggitt a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Copper

Commodore Cup is a great class to be involved in



quote:
Originally posted by Copper
Most of the drivers & crews are great to race & socialise with



So you are involved. Not just a "interested onlooker".

It is a great shame to lose a talent like Nick. With the right equipment he would certainly be knocking on the door.
To sit back a point the finger at the system does his future no good at all.
Constructive ideas from competitors would help a lot more than complaints after the fact.
Cheers
GG.
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Copper
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  23:06:18  Show Profile  Visit Copper's Homepage Send Copper a Private Message Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I have been involved but not who you think i am
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