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DeeMaC
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 Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 11:33:46
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At all the fast tracks that require rather large gonads Courtney seems to do very very well. He has shown he is fast around Bathurst, so no wonder he is getting a lot of votes.
As for Murph and his record. That car should never have been able to run so it is rather boring when that is the main thing his fans carry on about.
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V8SuperRiley
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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 11:53:57
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Originally posted by DeeMaC
At all the fast tracks that require rather large gonads Courtney seems to do very very well. He has shown he is fast around Bathurst, so no wonder he is getting a lot of votes.
As for Murph and his record. That car should never have been able to run so it is rather boring when that is the main thing his fans carry on about.
he is the only one with the nads big enough to push his car unlike some others out there.. many people have said they have never seen anyone push a car as hard through turn 8 at Clipsal like JC |
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supercar_freek
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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 12:21:37
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Originally posted by DeeMaC
As for Murph and his record. That car should never have been able to run so it is rather boring when that is the main thing his fans carry on about.
The lap was bloody awesome and everyone on pit straight acknoledged it as something amazing. 6 years on an you still cannot accept the lap like the teams did back then.
As for comparing year on year, that is a different story and many have raised the different aspects that have made it hard to beat.
I cannot wait for it to be beaten so we don't have to put up with this topic every year.
Personally I don't believe it will be broken this year. I actually don't think they will come close. |
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Tripple_8_Biggest_Fan
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emm
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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 15:03:13
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I don't see the big deal about breaking the record every year. I'm not trying to take anything away from Murph and what he achieved that day (as it was simply awesome!) but wouldn't you rather be there at the end of lap 161 in P1 instead of just going for a flying lap?
I know which one I'd focus on more ;)
I can't see it being beaten. It takes a special set of circumstances, and a jet of a car. Not saying that no one has a jet car as I'm sure many do (888 and HRT come to mind) but with the weather the way it is or is looking to be, its going to be impossible to do it. |
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murph_fan51
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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 16:04:29
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The cars can be much more aggressive over skyline now cause if they brake too late they can still pull it up on the new bitumen area instead of bouncing through sand as in previous years.
True, but I can't imagine the new bitumen run off will be grippy? It'll be full of dirt probably, especially by the top 10. The drivers may agree with your opinion though... |
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motu_34
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 10:14:36
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The cars can be much more aggressive over skyline now cause if they brake too late they can still pull it up on the new bitumen area instead of bouncing through sand as in previous years.
True, but I can't imagine the new bitumen run off will be grippy? It'll be full of dirt probably, especially by the top 10. The drivers may agree with your opinion though...
If they make a mistake but and go straight ahead it'll be alot easier to just tap the brakes and slow down on the bitumen then using the gravel trap but, so you'll probably see more drivers giving it 100% through the esses now knowing that there's little consequence for stuffing up. |
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DeeMaC
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 11:23:32
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kart_racer
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 17:17:22
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Seeing as Whincup is only 0.5s away with 2 days of practice & qualifying to go, I'd say Murph's record will go easily barring rain or unusual weather.
We are likely to see it drop a couple of times by the shootout.
I should also add that 888 aren't traditionally the best qualifiers at Mt. Panorama, so Whincup's times are likely to be bettered by some of the other teams tomorrow, I don't think that many cars were looking at qualifying today, it's mostly about getting a well balanced and composed car before they worry about a qualifying setup. |
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supercar_freek
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 17:33:33
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I was thinking the same thing KR. 0.5 sec is not much to go. But then I think that for it to rate in my opinion I would like to see it done on a shoot out lap. All or nothing not a buid up of fast laps and one gets it.
Either way I will congratulate who ever does it and I think it may be JW.
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kart_racer
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 18:14:04
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Originally posted by Murph51Fan
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The truly great thing about Murph's lap was that it was about a second faster than Bowe's time in 2nd, which prior to Murph's lap was an absolute cracker in itself. So even if it does go, I doubt the lap will stand up as one of the truly great qualy laps of all time, as Murph's lap does now. Furthermore I must say that I am stoked that I was on the mountain that Sat arvo in 2003.
No, that's just your wishful thinking.
Whoever breaks the record will have to do a ripper lap and they'll go in the books as the fastest ever around Bathurst regardless of the personal sentimentality you feel having been there for Murphy's qualifying lap in 2003.
Nah, just your wishful thinking. Murph DID beat the field by over a second, its not "wishful thinking". The fact that he beat the field by so much made the lap more special.
I agree, back in 2003 when John Bowe did the 2:07.9 in the shootout everyone was amazed at that, it was the fastest anyone had gone at Bathurst so far (matched by Murphy, Skaife & Bowe himself the day before). If you watch a replay of the lap you will hear Matt White I think saying "that lap of Bowe's will look at big as the mountain in front of him" because it was going to take a ripper lap just to get pole.
But then to come out and drop a 2:06.8 was just unbelievable, and even if (when) it gets topped this weekend, nothing will take away from just how good a lap it was.
Funny thing is for the last few years many have come close (Skaife a 2:06.9), but it just never seems to get nudged. |
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COPTZR
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 18:49:30
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Regardless of what anyone says (Fan boys, or Murph haters) that 2003 lap was something simply special.
Yes its easy to argue the weather was perfect, the car was perfect, etc, but Murph (above all the other drives, including the Skaife's, Ambroses', Tanders etc) put that car on pole and went faster by over a SECOND.
Quite simply for its time, that lap was remarkable. We can go on and on about how it shouldn't have been and all that non-sense but credit must be given where credit is due.
That said, who knows if it'll go this year. If it does, I would expect a 2.06.4/5/6. Just for a piece of current information, Skaife and Jason Richards are the only two other drives in history to go under the 7's at Bathurst. Skaife did it in 2006 in practice (2.06.9) and Richards did it last year (I think).
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SportsExtra_Motorsport
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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 19:59:41
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Who Will Beat Or Come Close To Murph's Record?
