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bigcol
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 :  10:22:24  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Should main game players be able to enter current spec cars, parts and engines in the Dunlop Series.


I don't think they should be able to.
A Chassis should have to be at least 2 years old and whatever parts it was running at the time should have to be used on it.
That includes the same period engine specs.

Seeing guys blitz the field in a 888 car and then run nowhere in anything else isn't right

Choices:
Yes
No

(Anonymous Vote)
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I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.
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No, but only because T8 have such good cars and I don't think it's right for the other guys..but there is no rule saying the Main game teams can't be there so, IMO it's the other teams problems, they need to be better to beat the best, so it gives them a competitive car/team to match up against....so I don't know, I voted no, but maybe I shoulda voted yes, because I really don't see it as a problem, it's good to see bigger teams enter.
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Mr.McPhillamy
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Positives and negatives.

My main negative being - it gernally increases boredom by 600% when someone you know is good enough to run main game, in a main game car, in a main game team - is going up against guys like Tom Tweedie.
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V8SuperRiley
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I think they should be allowed to enter, but not with a ex-main game driver.

I'm gld that T8 are giving a new bloke a run this year.
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bigcol
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I see it differently.

I see drivers in cars kitted out with the latest 888 or HRT gear consistently winning and then when they get behind the wheel of something else they struggle to be competitive.

So if they were running the same equipment as everybody else you'd be able to see the real talent rather then the best car
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quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

I see it differently.

I see drivers in cars kitted out with the latest 888 or HRT gear consistently winning and then when they get behind the wheel of something else they struggle to be competitive.

So if they were running the same equipment as everybody else you'd be able to see the real talent rather then the best car
I agree with what your saying Bigcol, Maybe in a couple of years this may not be as big of an issue, With the COTF car filtering through to the dunlop series it might make it a bit more of an even playing field?
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Muz
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I think COTF will be the best thing for the Dunlop Series. Presumably, all the current cars will come to this series, and the main game teams won't be able to run the same specs between the two series - should level the playing field - for a little while.

I think you are on the right track with this Col - but for sure, main game teams should be allowed in, but perhaps this series needs stricter guidelines.
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One of the biggest differences is with the suspension in the cars.
Obviously this makes it chalk and cheese for those that do run mainstream specs and those who don't.
Again, not a level playing field.
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At least, this year, the Dunlop cars are not allowed to run the same super shocks that the main-game teams use.

There should be a real point of difference so that test results are not transferable, either way. it could be argued that using an identical car in the development series last year could have helped 888 in the main game due to additional test data.
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quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

At least, this year, the Dunlop cars are not allowed to run the same super shocks that the main-game teams use.

There should be a real point of difference so that test results are not transferable, either way. it could be argued that using an identical car in the development series last year could have helped 888 in the main game due to additional test data.


Same for WP and arguably, same for FPR in the latter half of the year...
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HoldenGal
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quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.


They don't

Whoever has the biggest sponsor gets the ride..l.l
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Posted - 01 Mar 2012 :  23:20:51  Show Profile Send GetThe a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by HoldenGal

quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.


They don't

Whoever has the biggest sponsor gets the ride..l.l
And i take it this comment is due to the fact that a certain someone doesn't have a drive this year.

Not being a smartarse but maybe he's just not considered good enough.
Edited by - GetThe on 01 Mar 2012 23:21:16
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quote:
Originally posted by GetThe

quote:
Originally posted by HoldenGal

quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.


They don't

Whoever has the biggest sponsor gets the ride..l.l
And i take it this comment is due to the fact that a certain someone doesn't have a drive this year.

Not being a smartarse but maybe he's just not considered good enough.


2nd in last year's series, not good enough? Dream on

As for the topic itself, I welcome the involvement of the main game teams as well as any technical advantage that they can bring because at, the end of the day, the results scored by drivers who do have the benefit of a factory team behind them are all relative to the actual team, the quality of the cars and the amount of resources.
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HoldenGal
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quote:
Originally posted by GetThe

quote:
Originally posted by HoldenGal

quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.


They don't

Whoever has the biggest sponsor gets the ride..l.l
And i take it this comment is due to the fact that a certain someone doesn't have a drive this year.

Not being a smartarse but maybe he's just not considered good enough.


Well of course i'm pissed

But doesn't matter what type of Motorsport $$$$$ will outweigh tallent and has always for years - heck even Schumacher had to pay for his first F1 drive for Jordan...
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GetThe
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  00:12:25  Show Profile Send GetThe a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by HoldenGal

quote:
Originally posted by GetThe

quote:
Originally posted by HoldenGal

quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

I think they should be, it serves as a really good training ground for the young guys hired by Factory teams, or endurance drivers.


They don't

Whoever has the biggest sponsor gets the ride..l.l
And i take it this comment is due to the fact that a certain someone doesn't have a drive this year.

Not being a smartarse but maybe he's just not considered good enough.


Well of course i'm pissed

But doesn't matter what type of Motorsport $$$$$ will outweigh tallent and has always for years - heck even Schumacher had to pay for his first F1 drive for Jordan...
And look where Schumacher ended up, seven times world champion.

Sadly your favourite will never have the same record but i ask this, If he had the true talent needed wouldn't he get some sort of support from his father first and foremost. Don't get me wrong he has to have some sort of talent to get to where he has been but maybe not to get to the next level.

I will say this though my favourite memory to date of him is when he drilled Skaife up the arse at Bathurst in 2006. He was my favourite driver THAT day...
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