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Muz
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Legendary Gerry
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 Posted - 09 Jun 2012 : 17:17:18
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I think he has stated that in reality they are an engineering company that goes racing on the weekend, rather than a race team that does their own engineering.
Given the quality of the cars that T8 have produced I'd say that is a pretty fair statement.
They handled the engineering side of the shift from Ford to Holden fairly spectacularly, they had won 2 championships for Ford then switched to Holden and went within a poofteenth of winning one in their first year in a Holden. They were also the best Holden team by far.
As to Roland, I've never met him, so to comment about him personally is not the thing to do.
That's a pretty good assessment, madbugger. I don't think anyone could add any more to that. |
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REM
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Posted - 09 Jun 2012 : 17:19:23
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Originally posted by madbugger
I think he has stated that in reality they are an engineering company that goes racing on the weekend, rather than a race team that does their own engineering.
Given the quality of the cars that T8 have produced I'd say that is a pretty fair statement.
They handled the engineering side of the shift from Ford to Holden fairly spectacularly, they had won 2 championships for Ford then switched to Holden and went within a poofteenth of winning one in their first year in a Holden. They were also the best Holden team by far.
As to Roland, I've never met him, so to comment about him personally is not the thing to do.
They 'were, are, and will be' the best Holden team....while they stay with the red!
As for my opinion of RD...all I'll say is..I'm glad he's red....it's where he belongs! |
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Muz
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Max
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Posted - 09 Jun 2012 : 18:54:00
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Winners always seem to attract comment and controversy, maybe because they push harder, question more and are prepared to try something different(eg Larry Perkins). IMO Roland Dane has advanced our sport more than any other person with the levels of knowledge and preparation he brought here. As Madbugger pointed out, his transition fron Ford to Holden was spectacular in it's success.
Perhaps we should work on changing our "Tall Poppy Syndrome" |
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madbugger
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FOX 42
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Posted - 09 Jun 2012 : 20:34:22
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I remember seeing how he operated during the video, A day in the life of Jamie Whincup. I think V8xtra did it.
He does not accept failer. He is the sort of boss I would not want to work for.
But he does get the job done. |
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deej
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Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 01:02:44
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Keep in mind, that before he headed downunder, he had a succesful BTCC campaign as part-owner of Triple 8 UK.
At that stage the BTCC was at it's peak ( far removed from what we see today ) Roland certainly was involved in some of the BTCC greatest races and wins, the rivalry between the teams is very akin to what we have here in Oz now.
Roland has brought all that knowledge of racing in the BTCC and other categories, applied strict criteria, and has experienced success.
Roland has brought a standard of professionalism that Australian motor sport has never seen before.
Many teams have had to lift their game, thanks to the Dane factor.
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Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 09:21:24
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I'd argue that he has perfected what Frank Gardner used to do with JPS BMW, Larry Perkins did at MHDT and then the Stone Brothers subsequently did at DJR and then on their own
In fact Roland is similiar to Frank and Larry in that he doesn't tolerate fools
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Kieron302
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Posted - 10 Jun 2012 : 12:35:37
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Madbugger may have painted a pretty picture of Dane, but there's certainly more that could be added.
He handled the loss of Ford sponsorship extremely poorly, this cannot be disputed as he aired it in public. If that wasn't enough, he then had the audacity to replace the Ford badge on the cars with a pig.
Now, I don't know about others, but I see ****ting on a company who helped you get a business up and running, handing over millions plus giving you the best driver (at the time, who was also PAID by Ford) as extremely poor form. I would like to think he's learned from that and as recent history shows, it appears to with the departure of Voda.
I would suggest that Dane won't bother what's said about him on this site nowadays. He's a public figure and as such, he's going to attract both positive and negative opinion just like rock and movie stars. So as an astute, hard nosed businessman (which I readily accept he is) he will have learned to take the good with the bad by now or simply ignore it. |
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Fantastic post Madbugger, Agree with all of it.
