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skaifeman
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Posted - 08 Nov 2015 :  15:39:17  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a cracking race this should be. Rossi 7pts behind Lorenzo and starting from the back.

If Lorenzo finishes 1st, Rossi needs 2nd to hold the title, it gets a bit more complicated than that the further back you go.

Will Marquez play a part?


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Posted - 09 Nov 2015 :  00:12:01  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Great race! Good to see Lorenzo win the title. Rossi didn't deserve it after his form last time out though.

Sadly there's a lot of idiotic one eyed Rossi fans crying about it on Facebook and accusing Marquez of all sorts of things, calling him terrible names and even accusing him and Lorenzo of being gay together!



























































































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Posted - 09 Nov 2015 :  11:51:06  Show Profile Send Ruddeger a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Onya Lorenzo

Rossi caused all these problems himself.If he didn't slag off Marquez in the Malaysian pre-race press conference he might not have ended up losing the title.

Well done Danny Kent on taking out the Moto 3 title.

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Posted - 09 Nov 2015 :  15:48:49  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by DJRford

Sadly there's a lot of idiotic one eyed Rossi fans crying about it on Facebook and accusing Marquez of all sorts of things,



The only thing Marquez can be accused of is not trying to win the race last night.....
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Posted - 09 Nov 2015 :  22:09:42  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

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Originally posted by DJRford

Sadly there's a lot of idiotic one eyed Rossi fans crying about it on Facebook and accusing Marquez of all sorts of things,



The only thing Marquez can be accused of is not trying to win the race last night.....


Agreed. Pedrosa showed the Honda still had plenty to give at the later stages.


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Posted - 09 Nov 2015 :  23:12:23  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Marquez definitely played a part, no denying that, but purely in the sense that he didn't attempt a dive bomb, probably because he could've fallen off and taken out Lorenzo. I have no doubt he wanted to win that race, assuming Pedrosa didn't pass Lorenzo. Accusing him of not challenging Lorenzo is ridiculous though. He was pretty close to him the whole time! If he really wanted to back him up properly and give Lorenzo every chance of winning, he wouldn't have put him under such pressure.

Rossi only has himself to blame. Had he not made his stupid comments in the press conference at Malaysia, then Marquez wouldn't have challenged him so hard in the race, Rossi wouldn't have taken Marquez out and he wouldn't have gotten his penalty. I honestly believe that had Rossi not made his comments at Malaysia before the race, he'd now be champion. Rossi fans are blaming the wrong guy.



























































































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Posted - 10 Nov 2015 :  17:04:12  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by DJRford

Marquez definitely played a part, no denying that, but purely in the sense that he didn't attempt a dive bomb, probably because he could've fallen off and taken out Lorenzo.



Compare the moves that Marquez has made on riders all year (not just Rossi), and then compare his ride behind Lorenzo on Sunday.... he did not even make ONE attempt to even look like passing.

I don't have too much of a problem with it in general, Rossi pissed him off and this was his payback, but he should just admit it, i just can't see how anybody can think Marquez gave it his all, something which he is renowned for previously.

Not the first time it has happened, if anyone has seen the 125cc championship decider from Phillip Island in 1990, where all the Italians ganged up on Hans Spaan to ensure that Loris Capirossi won the title that day
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Posted - 10 Nov 2015 :  23:20:32  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

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Originally posted by DJRford

Marquez definitely played a part, no denying that, but purely in the sense that he didn't attempt a dive bomb, probably because he could've fallen off and taken out Lorenzo.



Compare the moves that Marquez has made on riders all year (not just Rossi), and then compare his ride behind Lorenzo on Sunday.... he did not even make ONE attempt to even look like passing.

I don't have too much of a problem with it in general, Rossi pissed him off and this was his payback, but he should just admit it, i just can't see how anybody can think Marquez gave it his all, something which he is renowned for previously.

Not the first time it has happened, if anyone has seen the 125cc championship decider from Phillip Island in 1990, where all the Italians ganged up on Hans Spaan to ensure that Loris Capirossi won the title that day



Very true that he didn't even make an attempt to pass when he normally does. But I stand by my point, why would he follow Lorenzo so closely and risk taking him out or forcing him into a mistake if he was acting as his bodyguard.

He certainly did want Lorenzo to win and was bitter with Rossi, and I don't blame him. After Rossi's comments in Malaysia then his dick move in the race, I think Marquez would be justified for helping Lorenzo win.

Maybe he could admit it, but then the Rossi fans would go even more feral than they already are.



























































































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Posted - 11 Nov 2015 :  21:39:29  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It didn't happen. But it was an interesting possibility that Rossi could've finished runner up in the standings despite never being headed in the points for the entire year, and Lorenzo could've won it without ever having led the points outright.

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Posted - 18 Nov 2015 :  16:08:01  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

Not the first time it has happened, if anyone has seen the 125cc championship decider from Phillip Island in 1990, where all the Italians ganged up on Hans Spaan to ensure that Loris Capirossi won the title that day



Here's some Youtube action of that 1990 race, featuring the Hans Spaan punch to the Italian mafia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HknzW4VFXfg
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Posted - 13 Dec 2015 :  17:59:40  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Following on from a quote of Fbf aimed at me about the validity of Barry Sheene's world title on the main board? Fbf stated that Sheene had a good bike. In the same way all champions have a good bike/car. I was having a pop at Sheene's credibility as a world champ. I was also aware that Sheene would still be popular by some fans here, and didn't want to incite those fans who would understandably bring up the fact he's dead.

But since Fbf has led me to add further. I'll expand more. Sheene didn't just have a "good bike". In 76, he was the lead rider for the factory Suzuki team, which was the only factory team competing that year! Being the lead rider. He either got the only good parts, or got them long before his team mates did. Not just that. The rest of the competitors were running private Suzuki's!

This was still largely the case in 77. His team mate Steve Parrish was using the previous year's bike. Yamaha returned with a factory effort. But I think this time it was Yamaha America competing for the first time in what was mostly a European championship. Kenny Roberts rocks up in his first year in 78, then knocks off the following three titles. Reconfirming that the American motorbike racing scene was superior to the world championship.

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Posted - 13 Dec 2015 :  18:51:33  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Was he racing at Valencia?
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Posted - 14 Dec 2015 :  04:54:13  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It was only one post. Better here than the other board. You want me to start a Barry Sheene is **** thread?

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Posted - 14 Dec 2015 :  05:57:02  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
That is the norm...
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