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Posted - 25 Aug 2017 :  00:01:28  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a thought that came to my head. Just wondering if anyone here knew or could give a reasonable estimate?

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I couldn't give a reasonable estimate, but unless I'm mistaken, a WRC car has good acceleration but not great top speed. I could be wrong. So using that assumption, it'd be a bit slow down the bottom. It'd lose so much time on the straights compared to a V8 Supercar you'd imagine, but over the top it'd have to be fast, surely. You'd think with a good driver behind the wheel they could really throw it around up the top and make some good time. For an overall lap time, if I had to guess I'd say a bit slow compared to a Supercar. Give me a 2:20



























































































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Posted - 25 Aug 2017 :  10:47:36  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
perhaps you could check what time Jordan Cox was doing in his little buzz box and then probably take a few more seconds off that?

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Originally posted by journeyman racer

Just wondering if anyone here knew or could give a reasonable estimate?
I don't think anyone can do more than give a reasonable estimate. It'd depend on what would be allowed in setup re gearing, ride height and tyres. I think DJR's estimate of 2:20 might be a little optimistic, seeing the Toyota 86s can't get down to 2:40. I'll go for breaking 2:30 and getting into the mid 2:20s - but until it happens, we won't know. Still, a WRC car would acquit itself better on a road circuit better than a Supercar would do on a loose surface WRC Special Stage.
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perhaps you could check what time Jordan Cox was doing in his little buzz box and then probably take a few more seconds off that?



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perhaps you could check what time Jordan Cox was doing in his little buzz box and then probably take a few more seconds off that?



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Thanks Mick... so from that perhaps it could get close to 2:20 IF the driver could get his head around it in the few laps they get... if the task was given to someone with good experience at the track who knows...

Wonder what something like Ken Block's thing could do? For sure it'd buzz out down the straights but it'd have to be mighty from t2 all the way to the Elbow

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Mid to low 2:20s could be possible given how the current WRC machines have sprouted wings on top of wings and 380hp on tap.

A rallycross supercar, with the weight taken out of it and with 600hp, who knows?
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Wonder what something like Ken Block's thing could do? For sure it'd buzz out down the straights but it'd have to be mighty from t2 all the way to the Elbow



On a flying lap, or one edited together to make it look like he did a flyer?

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Thinking about it, and looking up data. I think they'd be pretty fricken fast.

I'd liken WR Cars to suped up super touring cars. In both Bathurst races from 1997/98, the ST were doing 2:14, v8sc were doing 2:09-10.

70hp more than ST, 100kgs heavier? 4WD. 20 years of development. The WRC drivers are better than any touring car/v8sc driver. 2:05-7 wouldn't surprise me.

When I say WRC drivers. I mean the actual good ones. Not a try hard like Ken Block.

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quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Thinking about it, and looking up data. I think they'd be pretty fricken fast.

I'd liken WR Cars to suped up super touring cars. In both Bathurst races from 1997/98, the ST were doing 2:14, v8sc were doing 2:09-10.

70hp more than ST, 100kgs heavier? 4WD. 20 years of development. The WRC drivers are better than any touring car/v8sc driver. 2:05-7 wouldn't surprise me.

When I say WRC drivers. I mean the actual good ones. Not a try hard like Ken Block.



So put an Ogier or Neuville in and you think they'd be up there with Supercar lap times? What's the top speed of a WRC car? Say it's tuned to rally stages I'm guessing just over 200 maybe? I could be wrong, but let's say that's what they do, that's 100k less than what a Supercar does on Conrod. That's absolute murder for the WRC car.



























































































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I'm probably getting a bit ahead of myself. 2:10 is my revised figure atm.

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