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oldtimer
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Posted - 01 Mar 2019 :  23:47:45  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The NRL is a total shambles at the moment.
Beattie and Co seem to be making things up on the fly.



The NRL, a sport that promotes, and keeps, a long term druggie to it's Hall of Fame.

Is it any wonder that it attracts ant-social thugs?
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  07:48:09  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Don't get me going on Joey Johns...
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  08:56:46  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Don't get me going on Joey Johns...



There are numerous others so not sure why every one is so sooky over Joey.

Back in the late 90s there was an actual piss tester using his own piss to submit so star players could play in a certain grand final.

Recreational drugs have always and will always continue to be used by players and even more so now they are getting paid ridiculously large amounts of money.

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Good idea, LG. That'd only get Col going again . I don't know that the NRL is a total shambles at the moment. Peter Beattie seems to do a lot of waffling on subjects he doesn't know much about, but Todd Greenberg is working hard at improving things in many areas. The plan to stop players charged with serious offences being able to play until their matter is decided seems fair to me. It's standard procedure in many occupations: medicine, teaching, the police, the law, politics, etc. If some lawyers believe it's "a restriction of trade", let it be decided by a court. The player would continue to be paid, but would not be part of the game. It should help to make some players think twice about their behaviour - although in the case of an idiot charged with beating up his partner in an argument about him playing his Playstation, probably not. Does anyone have any better ideas? The NRL is not a total shambles, but it doesn't need another off-season like this one, dominated by news of idiotic players with too much hero-worship, too much money, and too much free time getting into trouble - usually involving drink.

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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  09:38:57  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I agree with the theory of being stood down on full pay (just as in many other professions) but this one is a knee jerk reaction to the off season antics.

They should bring it in but I believe the workplace should have some notice, e.g. As from a certain future date this will be the policy.

It's basically been backdated.
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  09:57:20  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
That's a fair point, but knee-jerk or not, I support the rule. In the case of Jack de Belin, St George should have stood him down once the charges against him became public. That's not to single out St George. It's just the way that NRL teams operate with their 'win at all costs' mentality. This new rule, whether we see it as back-dating or not, will put an end to that (and once the rule came in, it was always going to collect more than just Jack de Belin). It will help rid the NRL of the 'game for thugs' reputation that it has earned even more than it had previously. More importantly, it should help reduce the bad (and criminal) behaviour of some players.
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  10:13:07  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Remember Brett Stewart's case?
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Yes, I do. Brett Stewart was suspended for four matches for being drunk at Manly's season launch event, and his club, Manly was fined $100,000. The penalty was judged as severe, but was deemed fair because he was the 'Face of Rugby League' at the time. Was his drunkenness a result of the pressure he was under because of charges of sexual assault made against him - or did the NRL make drunkenness the official reason for his suspension while they thought otherwise? Who knows what was going on there? I don't. It was the end of Brett Stewarts's career, while he was cleared of the sexual assault charges. That was ten years ago, and while the NRL still stumbles along dealing with such matters, it has progressed at least some way since then.
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Posted - 02 Mar 2019 :  11:52:26  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lowering the fine for breaching the salary cap from $750000 to $250000 doesn't seem like much of a deterrent?




Is there a Footy Show replacement this year?

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Originally posted by CP

Lowering the fine for breaching the salary cap from $750000 to $250000 doesn't seem like much of a deterrent?




Is there a Footy Show replacement this year?



It's a big incentive to self report if you're over.
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Posted - 05 Mar 2019 :  09:30:22  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I don't think this is needed.



NRL clubs and broadcasters have been briefed on a proposal to introduce a "Wildcard Weekend" as part of a new finals system that could be introduced as soon as next year.

Under the concept, which was outlined by NRL head of elite football operation Graham Annesley to club CEOs on Monday, the teams finishing ninth and 10th at the end of the regular season would be given a chance to qualify for the finals by beating the seventh and eighth ranked teams.

The top six teams would have the weekend off, while the team finishing seventh plays team 10 and the eighth-ranked team meets team nine in sudden-death play-offs.

If the Wildcard Weekend concept had been in place last season, ninth-placed Wests Tigers would have played the eighth-placed Warriors and the 10th-placed Raiders would have met the seventh-placed Dragons.

The finals series would then kick off in its current format, with the top four playing in qualifying finals and the teams finishing fifth and sixth playing elimination matches against the winners from Wildcard Weekend.

It is anticipated that the new concept would benefit clubs financially by increasing crowds and television audiences at the back end of the season when teams are no longer in play-off contention.

According to data provided by the NRL, the number of "dead" matches those in which one or both teams could not make the finals have been increasing each season and were at a record high of 36 in 2018.

The average number of dead matches across the past 11 years is 23 per season - or 12 per cent of the 192 Telstra Premiership fixtures each year.

However, if the Wildcard Weekend concept had been in place last season that number would have been reduced to just eight and an average of 14 per season since 2008.

Those matches with no bearing on the final eight resulted in an average decline in attendances of 3,300 per match costing home clubs about $80,000 per match in gate receipts.

Television audiences also decreased by eight per cent for dead games.

Annesley, who has returned to the NRL this season after a stint as Gold Coast CEO, said the proposed format would keep fans engaged for longer during the season and benefit clubs financially.

"I think at the Titans last year we were probably done and dusted by very early in the second round," Annesley said.

"You often hear clubs say mathematically we can still make it but mathematically means you have to win every game.

"If you've missed the eight for multiple years, trying to get members to re-sign for the following year can be difficult so if this is a way of keeping that engagement and that involvement from everyone associated with the game it is at least worth considering."

The Wildcard Weekend system will benefit teams who are impacted by heavy injury tolls early in the season and may also place more emphasis on recruitment before June 30 as clubs try to sign a player who can help keep their play-off hopes alive.

It is anticipated that the ARL Commission will look more closely at the proposal in coming months after feedback from clubs, fans, broadcasters and the RLPA and if there is support at the highest levels of the game it could be introduced from 2020.

"There has been some discussion with the broadcasters and I think that they are at least open to the idea," Annesley said.

"I think the clubs were open. We just gave them an overview and after the phone hook-up we sent them some documentation to have a look at. We've asked them to talk to their people and come back to us within a reasonable time.

"We will probably start to get some feedback in the next week or so and we will certainly be able to assess public opinion over the next few days I would think.

"In terms of player welfare and workload, teams getting a week off before they play the finals is obviously beneficial to them. Yes, four teams will potentially play one more game, but you wouldn't think under normal circumstances they would go as deep into the finals as the other teams."

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/04/nrl-proposes-wildcard-weekend-to-revamp-finals-format/
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 05 Mar 2019 :  19:11:58  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It's ridiculous.
Next they'll have a season that a team wins and becomes minor premiers, followed by some sort of round robin with all the teams and the winner from that is the premiers.
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Posted - 05 Mar 2019 :  22:19:52  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Wildcard Weekend is just plain stupid. If a team isn't good enough to finish in the top 8 they don't deserve to be there in the first place.

On Player behaviour. They should have had that years ago. The fans are sick of this sort of rubbish. Knee jerk reaction or not it's long overdue.
The players will have to take responsibility for their stupid decision making and if they're to stupid to realise it may affect their income, well too bad.
Rub them out of the game


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Posted - 05 Mar 2019 :  23:52:53  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

Wildcard Weekend is just plain stupid. If a team isn't good enough to finish in the top 8 they don't deserve to be there in the first place.

On Player behaviour. They should have had that years ago. The fans are sick of this sort of rubbish. Knee jerk reaction or not it's long overdue.
The players will have to take responsibility for their stupid decision making and if they're to stupid to realise it may affect their income, well too bad.
Rub them out of the game





The video sharing should ideally fall under the new NSW revenge porn laws. It should also fall foul of Phil Goulds no ******** policy that I thought he had instilled at the Panthers.



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Posted - 06 Mar 2019 :  07:35:09  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Some of the videos have caught the eye of the law after a couple of women complained.
Revenge porn laws in action!
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