Bathurst 2024 - may contain spoilers

[Dasha]

Well done Erebus, Brodie & Todd, very deserved winners.

So the big question is...was everyone involved  in the wind tunnel testing process aware that the Camaro & Mustang would have such different characteristics?

I do believe that parity is the closest it's ever been, and I find it somewhat interesting that certain track suit certain cars to mix up the results.

I am concerned though that these one sided results will continue at Bathurst or do we believe that it will be different next time as the Mustang package is refined over the next year?

I would love to hear everyone thoughts.

The closer the cars are, a small difference will have a larger effect.  In turn it makes it harder to identify issues. 

After the SC, No Mustangs had the sustained pace of Camaro. All with full tanks and fresh rubber, Cam and Mostert were no match for 888 and Kostecki. Even Goulding was closing in.

The Camaro is strong on the straights. I believe there is still work to do. 3-4 tenths over a Bathurst lap is a pretty big gap. Yes, the top Ford drivers made mistakes, however they are driving the car harder to keep up.

Yep once again totally agree 100 % the Mustangs are just not up to the job but Kosteki was just faultless that Chiko Camaro was set up perfectly & driven perfectly & T8 are still showing everyone how its done they run a great show.
The Mustangs where reliable enough but just had absolutely no chance to have a crack.
Well done Erebus & Kosteci. 

[CP]

from someone sitting at the top of the mountain, it was as boring as batsh!t

That wasn't you that everyone could hear on TV shouting "How are ya gunna **** this race?".

On another note, Erebus should be celebrating their second Bathurst 1000 win, but instead they're out extinguishing self inflicted dumpster fires, such as an after hours incident which may not have actually occurred.

[skaifeman]

Le Brocq and Ojeda were burnt by the VSC, somehow?
Erebus were looking good for a 1st and 4th, which would've matched their 2017 effort, IIRC.

[hsv8fan]

Le Brocq and Ojeda were burnt by the VSC, somehow?
Erebus were looking good for a 1st and 4th, which would've matched their 2017 effort, IIRC.

They were burnt by Erebus. Barry sacrificed him for the chance to win in the #1 car (as per his previous acknowledgement
)

[Joe5619]

I'm not sure what people expect Supercars to do...They are using worlds best practices for both aero & engines & they cars have been matched.

The only way from here to stop all the whingeing is BOP.

[muz]

BOP will cause a lot of issues. In every series it exists there are issues. It isn't clear cut and it makes racing overly political and tactical.

[AlbertM]

I'm not sure what people expect Supercars to do...They are using worlds best practices for both aero & engines & they cars have been matched.

The only way from here to stop all the whingeing is BOP.

World best practice, yes. But only as good as the people interpreting the results. Supercars is pretty fresh in this regard. Carl Faux from WAU said it best, more post race analysis is needed. As long as Supercar continue to refine parity, they'll get there.

What got people wound up before Windsheer and AVL was Supercars/Burgess did nothing.

[Troy01505]

Parity issue my ass! The issue is the cars are to reliable, handle to well and have bugger all tyre wear

Everyone wanted dead equal parity and now you have it, the cars cant pass.

[AlbertM]

Well... unless you drive a Camaro, you can pass and gap Mustangs all day. 

Leaving out the brand parity, you will still have the same problem. All Camaro's and Mustangs are the same.

[skaifeman]

Le Brocq and Ojeda were burnt by the VSC, somehow?
Erebus were looking good for a 1st and 4th, which would've matched their 2017 effort, IIRC.

They were burnt by Erebus. Barry sacrificed him for the chance to win in the #1 car (as per his previous acknowledgement).

A fair move then. If it secured a Bathurst win, no brainer.

[AlbertM]

Speaking of screwing Car 9.

Anybody notice that 2019's debris incident has been re-instated and renamed as Full Course Yellow?

[Trevor]

As a participant at the mountain and a bloke who was a fan of FCY, I could see sitting on the fence that the FCY was going to make the remaining race as boring as batsh!t.  I reckon that in race control they looked at what was happening and called off the FCY and let the mob bunch up for a (wait for it) "sprint to the finish"

Everyone watching would have fallen asleep for the remainder of the race if the did the FCY until the track was cleared.  Brodie would have won by an even bigger gap and probably lapped the tail enders which he nearly did anyway

Of course there is parity, in the technical department of Supercars only

[skaifeman]

As a participant at the mountain and a bloke who was a fan of FCY, I could see sitting on the fence that the FCY was going to make the remaining race as boring as batsh!t.  I reckon that in race control they looked at what was happening and called off the FCY and let the mob bunch up for a (wait for it) "sprint to the finish"

Everyone watching would have fallen asleep for the remainder of the race if the did the FCY until the track was cleared.  Brodie would have won by an even bigger gap and probably lapped the tail enders which he nearly did anyway

Of course there is parity, in the technical department of Supercars only

Agree Trevor. The FCY isn't working in its current form.
The risk of pitting outside of an FCY on a different strategy is too big, which lends itself to everyone doing the same.

The goal of the concept is right, but the action needs to be changed.

[Sonic]

the bunch up after the FCY triggers me. there is no need for it. (as there is also no need for a SC to come out while under FCY)

perhaps the answer is to allow pitstops to happen (would be unfair for it to happen when a pitstop is due and have someone run out of fuel) but maybe enforce a drive-thru on the first green lap back to racing? cuts back the advantage gained compared to a green flag stop.